Empowering the Next Generation: Fostering Self-Worth and Entrepreneurship in Children with Phoebe Pallot

Can you imagine a world where children confidently embrace entrepreneurship and self-worth? Join us as we chat with the inspiring 20-year-old entrepreneur, Phoebe, who's on a mission to make this vision a reality. After making the bold decision to leave traditional schooling at 15 for homeschooling, Phoebe shares her journey of self-discovery, which not only led her to take control of her future but also sparked the creation of her successful child entrepreneurship brand.

In this heartfelt conversation, we explore the various aspects of Phoebe's business, including a children's book and coaching services, all aimed at fostering an entrepreneurial mindset and a strong sense of self-worth in young minds. Phoebe reveals how her personal experiences overcoming self-doubt and her unique education path have informed her mission to change the lives of children. Don't miss this opportunity to learn valuable insights from Phoebe on instilling self-worth and entrepreneurship in the next generation, and find out how to connect with her for further support.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Child Entrepreneurship and Overcoming Self-Doubt
• 10:32 Teaching Kids Self-Worth and Marketing Ecosystem

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

Thank you, hello, and welcome to another episode of Overcome Yourself. As you know, my name is Nicole and I'm so excited to be here today with Phoebe. Phoebe's coming to us all the way from the UK and I'm going to go ahead and hand it off to her. Phoebe, introduce yourself, tell us about you and tell us about your business. Hi everyone.

Speaker 2: 0:23

So I am Phoebe. I am 20 years old from this tiny island called Jersey, just around the UK, and my business it's a child entrepreneurship brand and the idea of it is basically that I know crazy is basically that I teach children how to have an entrepreneurial mindset and how to start on the entrepreneurial journey really young, basically.

Speaker 1: 0:48

That is so cool. I love it. How did you get into this Really good question?

Speaker 2: 0:55

So I guess my journey kind of started when I was around 15 years old and I just knew I was always slightly different to everyone else.

Speaker 2: 1:06

I really really struggled to make friends at school, definitely did not experience peer pressure as I never really felt pressure to follow the crowd, but I definitely did feel alone a lot of the time and just very like didn't really have any friends at all and then it just got really bad mentally that I ended up getting homeschooled at the age of kind of 15 for around two years and in my homeschool journey I think I learnt so much about myself.

Speaker 2: 1:35

I learnt that one I was able to prioritize things I was not good at and then kind of also carry on doing things that I really really like doing, and just learnt so much about kind of time management, what my weaknesses are, what my skills are at a really young age and that's what I think also the awfulness that I experienced at school in terms of the things that are happening around me that a 15 year old should not see really or hear about. I think showed to me how self-worth is something that really is missed in schools and really not taught about at all, and I think by doing homeschool I really learnt about myself worth without being the education system but still getting educated. And from that I really want to be a light for children, because not many children would have had my kind of school experience and that's why I kind of got the idea from the brand, basically, yeah, No, that's so, so cool.

Speaker 1: 2:36

You saw a problem and you created a solution like it's so simple and it's so, it's, it's, it's eloquent, it's genius. I love it. I wish that someone had introduced me like to someone like you when I was younger right, like I think we do because I feel like There was a lot of signs of entrepreneurship in me. There was leadership, and I was not around people who were like that And so there was no one to help me develop that And so, like you said, i didn't have friends. That was awkward, i was weird. But if I had learned to, if I knew then what I know now, if I had learned to take those things that I thought were weaknesses earlier and use them as my strength And I think that's kind of what you do right, cause that's really what entrepreneurship is is learning to value you and then having just the confidence to go out there and solve problems for people, and we all have the power to do that. We really do it.

Speaker 2: 3:42

Yeah, and I think no one really teaches you it at all. I mean, it's something that only through homeschool that I really learn And, to be honest, when I did start my homeschool journey where I learned about entrepreneurship, it was actually I looked it up online homeschooling cause I was so desperate to get out of school And I was the one who gave this giant presentation to my mom like, please, can you let me do this. So it was a very active thing that I had to do as a 15, 14 year old child, and unless you kind of have that brain that thinks differently, so it's like, is there a different option than what I'm doing now, then it doesn't happen for young kids, you know. So, yeah, i completely agree with you there.

Speaker 1: 4:20

Yeah, so that's super, super cool. So you're very young, have you? but you've already had to overcome yourself, right, like you had to figure that out. You picked yourself up by your bootstraps very early. Tell me a little bit about that. How did you overcome yourself? Where did the journey emotionally? how did you, how were you able to handle this?

Speaker 2: 4:42

Great question. So I kind of I always say this to my boyfriend and I say and this is relating to what I'm saying now that if you put what a typical 18 year old drinks alcohol-wise they're 18 and put that on a 26 year old, you'll see there's an alcoholic. And I really got heavily into drinking when I was about 17, 16.

Speaker 1: 5:07

Quick note in the US the drinking age is 21,. In the UK it's 18, right? Yes, it is. Yeah, i was watching a movie and I was like we looked it up, the law and they were like they were really young. So yeah, just FYI everyone who's listening in the US, in the UK, the legal drinking age is 18, so that's why she mentioned it. It is, but you're allowed legally.

Speaker 2: 5:28

if you've got an adult around, you can drink over 16, that's the law. work So and I think I know crazy And I think it kind of carried on in my life up to the age of 19. And I remember when I went to university I thought, okay, i have no parents around me anymore, i have no real support system anymore, and if I'm gonna make this business work and be what I want it to be, i'm going to have to do everything I can to overcome myself and overcome this so I can perform at the best of my ability and be the best sister, girlfriend, daughter, student I can be in this world and for my future, children, et cetera. So that was the big turning point for me. That was definitely something that I don't think is spoken a lot about at all. So, yeah, that was my turning moment for me.

Speaker 1: 6:25

Awesome, that's super cool. So how do you help kids? What is your program Like? are you working with them one-on-one, do you have a course, or how does that work?

Speaker 2: 6:36

Yeah, great question. So it started off really simply. So I was in a lot of Facebook kind of children and groups, particularly of parents who are homeschooling their kids, some with ADHD, some with autism, because usually when people homeschool it's because their child has autism or ADHD and the school can't support them as well. So that's usually where they take the homeschool option. And I ended up just posting a few of my tips on there. People seemed to like it and then I thought, okay, they're liking my small tips. Maybe I should create like a PDF or like a sheet of actually full-on tips and tricks et cetera, And I post on this Facebook forum. I was like does anyone want a PDF on how to help your child sleep at 14, 15, when they struggle with anxiety? And it completely blew up. I think I got 250 comments within like the first Crazy. Everyone's saying yes, please, yes please. And then Facebook banned me because I was obviously spamming this PDF link to all these people And that's when I realized, wow, like parents are actually struggling with this And I always thought there was enough support for kids who are struggling at school but there really really isn't. So that's when the brand kind of started for me, and then now it's. So there's multiple things that I do. So one is I kind of do a 24 seven text support for, generally children, and I don't like to niche it down to only one, to one to start businesses, because I do know a lot about autism, i know a lot about ADHD and I know how lost you can feel at 15, 14, 13, et cetera. So it's generally to support them with life and know that they always have someone who will understand them. And I think, because sometimes parents are so heavily in the mix and trying everything they can to make their child happy And so parents are exhausted, really exhausted. Sometimes they're not the best people to truly understand from a very objective point of view, because I'm full of energy, full of life, like no real kids yet. So that's how it started. And I've also got a course that basically teaches children how to launch their own businesses legally So, with business licensing, setting up bank accounts and all that stuff, cause that's the stuff that I really struggle with and it's not fun. So, yeah, and then I've also just got my Facebook group, which has around nearly 2000 members in, that is just giving free resources and advice on children starting their businesses, mental health, all that kind of fun stuff. So, yeah, very cool.

Speaker 2: 9:20

Have you read in a book? Good, yes, so I am in the process, so I, so I. I have an amazing coach called Brooke Young. She is absolutely phenomenal. She has worked with kids very closely her whole life and also wrote a child's book.

Speaker 2: 9:38

And we were talking around two weeks ago and I was like Brooke, i have this idea. All I know is that I want to change children's lives And I want them to remember that they're already worthy and fulfilled inside of them. They've just forgotten that because of how lost you can get in the world. And she was like sounds like it's like a journal, like it's a. You want to take children on this journey to find themselves, find their passions and get them in a stage of their life where they're really operating from an authentic heart, basically So they're able to achieve all their dreams. And so that's what I've been doing for the last two weeks. I've worked pretty hard on it And, like I said, brooke, she's been amazing. She's put me in contact with all these people, from printers to graphic designers. So that's why I'm writing at the moment And it's very exciting. I've already got it planned to be stocked and kind of and in schools and things like that. Still working on it And it's being released, i believe September the 5th. So yeah, very exciting.

Speaker 1: 10:45

That's awesome. That's fabulous.

Speaker 2: 10:48

I know well, i'm lucky you have the content already put together. Yes, i did so. I've been writing stories like children's books, just playing with it with my mind, for ages, so I really had the content already. I just had to rejig how it was worded to suit what the journals going to be about. So, yeah, i love it.

Speaker 1: 11:08

Are you self publishing or traditional publishing For?

Speaker 2: 11:12

now self publishing. That's very easy to set on Amazon, but I mean, what's really exciting about this is it really can be sold anywhere and everywhere. so if it The reason.

Speaker 1: 11:24

The reason I'm asking Okay, because you're doing what I teach. I just love, i love. So that's why I'm asking you these questions, because I want I want people to see your marketing ecosystem.

Speaker 1: 11:36

So I'm asking you questions, that you're revealing your marketing ecosystem to me so you're telling me that you have no, no, no, because you, i think you stumbled into exactly what I teach. And well, you told me you have a coach. Brooke is absolutely amazing. Did you know that she's a freaking Disney princess? I don't know if you knew that I'd like she told me and I was like, oh my god, this is amazing she's. Oh my god. She sent me pictures Beautiful, like, it is so cool. So I know you know she used to. I think she actually used to work in Disney and now she works in parties And so, yes, she's been working with kids for a really long time. She's absolutely phenomenal. She, she. We work together in the capacity that she's the one that send me a lot of podcasts, guys, so she's the one that hooked us up to work together.

Speaker 1: 12:24

Yes, and so you've got your Facebook group. You're collecting your audience. You were in other groups posting as an expert. You came into these other groups where your ideal audience already was. You posted as a guest expert. You got everyone to go back into your group and then you're giving them a lot of free stuff, like you're just giving them value on value on value inside your group, and so it just makes sense for them to jump in once they're inside that value. I'm willing to bet some money that inside all those free resources you have links to all of your paid resources Or some of your paid resources?

Speaker 2: 13:07

Yeah, some groups are very icky about promotion, so I've been very, very careful how I've done it, but I have sent them links personally. So yeah, and for the most, part.

Speaker 1: 13:19

When you send your free stuff, you've got some kind of way of saying hey, you want to work with me? This is how you do it, right? Yeah, exactly, yes, all right. So everything leads back to working with you and now you're like a coach, you've got a course and you've got a book, and so, like you're literally, that's your domino content and you're just rocking it. You're using it in different formats and you're selling it, because people will pay for a lot of the same information in different formats.

Speaker 2: 13:47

Right, Every child learns differently and every person learns differently, So it's so important to have that range of you know products and things.

Speaker 1: 13:55

So I love it. Like you are, you have, like that, fantastic foundations to an incredible business. Like you are going to do amazing things. So Brooke was like she's really young. I'm like I don't care, i've been doing this since I was really young too, and and you've just got you've just got such an air. You're very smart. You're very, very smart. I'm very impressed with you, phoebe. This is awesome And I want you guys to see that it's possible.

Speaker 1: 14:24

You know, if you're listening, like these are very simple things that she's done. If it wasn't over complicated, you didn't spend thousands of dollars in advertising because you didn't need to. You found your audience And you said here's some value. If you want more support, this is how you give me money. That's how making money online works, right? Yeah, exactly Yeah. I absolutely love it. So let's talk. A tip. I'm going to ask you two more things. Final tip what is your juiciest thing that you teach kids? Because whatever you're teaching kids, i bet you that it's going to be super helpful for the adults that are listening too. Yes, right, because you're teaching what I'm teaching. You're just teaching it at a different level. And then two is how can we get in touch with you? How can we stay in touch with you? How can we join your groups and get all this free value and give money to you? So let's start with your tip, your greatest tip that you give everyone.

Speaker 2: 15:23

Oh, amazing. So my biggest mantra is that your self-worth is not based on what you do, but who you are And, i think, remembering that you're already whole just the way you are. The school system is very heavy on grades and your achievements and getting your work done and being top of the class, bottom of the class, all this stuff, and it misses this crucial component that a child's already fulfilled. It might be that their passions are in creative arts and school doesn't really support creative arts as well. And that is my biggest mantra, and in my journal and in my courses that is the first thing I teach. I say to the parents don't go any further until a child has this part narrowed down, because I don't want them to get into people pleasing and need to do this, do this, do that to be worthy. I want them to understand they're already worthy and that they're doing something because they're already worthy, not because they need to feel like they're worthy. So that's the first tip.

Speaker 2: 16:24

Second one you can get all of this. I've got a Facebook group called Child Entrepreneurs And it is as simple as that. I'm the only Facebook group called that, so if you click on it, you'll probably see a group with 2,000 people And then you'll see a photo of me on the top, but you can also. I'm on Instagram, i'm at Phoebe Gracia, p-h-o-e-b-e, g-r-a-z-i-a, and, yeah, i'm always my email's on there, everything's on there, all the links will be in the notes So for everyone listening, scroll down.

Speaker 1: 17:00

You can get in touch with Phoebe any of those ways.

Speaker 2: 17:04

Awesome, yeah, amazing. Thank you so much. That was so much, thank you.

Speaker 1: 17:10

Yes, it has been amazing. So any last words before we sign off here.

Speaker 2: 17:15

I just hope you're all doing amazing And you're all chasing your dreams And just know that whatever you do, it does not reflect who you are.

Speaker 1: 17:23

Yes, well, we got a few more minutes. Is there anything else that you want to talk about? Oh, amazing.

Speaker 2: 17:33

What do your listeners, what are their struggles? just generally, just because I love to be able to talk to them directly, that makes sense.

Speaker 1: 17:40

Thank you. I would love to talk a little bit more about finding your ideal audience. Oh, yeah, that's a really good one. How did you come into these groups? Because you're not a parent, right? Yeah, i'm not, but you are in groups with parents of kids. So tell me a little bit about that. How do I be?

Speaker 2: 18:06

around my people, yeah, of course.

Speaker 2: 18:09

So for me it kind of started with because I because homeschool was mainly autism and ADHD groups I literally searched Autism Support groups and joined them And there was these some groups like 30,000 people And slowly I kind of started just reading through the comments and seeing because parents mainly went on these groups because they felt really, really alone And I felt like no one understood them. But what's amazing about the internet is that you can get all these little tiny segments of people around the world and put them together on a giant forum, so suddenly you're not alone. And I just kind of read through their kind of stories and their pain and what their child was doing and all this stuff And I was like, oh, i'm going to be a child struggle, mental health, should they take them out of school? and all these decisions that we possibly didn't have to make as much 20 years ago. Because the internet is such early access that our child can get it so easily, they're being exposed to things they really shouldn't be at such a young age.

Speaker 1: 19:11

So step one was research.

Speaker 2: 19:14

Yes, yeah, And two for me understanding people's stories and understanding people's pain. So when people write, they're taking their thoughts into, obviously, words. So watching how they phrase things like I feel so broken because of this or my child's doing this, etc. And I think the first thing is understanding These are your customers, but they're also people. So treat them like people is what I'm saying.

Speaker 2: 19:44

You've got to have such a heart before you start thinking Not that there's anything, obviously making money is great and we need it to survive but actually understand that these people need you. So how can you serve them before they start serving you? basically, that's my second big tip. Third big tip talk to people like, if you feel like there's for me, it was. I started, probably, and this wasn't to achieve anything. This is just because I could understand them more and understand how I could serve them more. but I would message 10 people a day. I would answer their comments. I would say Have you tried this, have you tried that? and just slowly built these really strong relationships with basically strangers, because I was able to see something without a bi-ism.

Speaker 2: 20:30

I'm not a parent which obviously hasn't setbacks and like strong holds because I have a nanny and I do singing, teaching, so I spent a lot of time with kids And that was my third one. I think understanding that you can change the world is so important when finding your ideal audience. And how could you change? what people are the people that you could change the world for? So that's kind of the next step. Yeah, and then do what I did like.

Speaker 2: 21:01

If you think you have expertise in certain area, i mean, you definitely do write a PDF and just go on these groups and say, hey, i got free resource. Do you want me to send it to you? And then they'll usually give you their email and then you can start an email newsletter and send it to them every week. This was really powerful. And then we connect so many parents. You can do what I do start a Facebook group. Facebook is great because it has a lot of parents on. So if you but if you are targeting children, tiktok's the way to go. So just know your audience and know what you based on age, what platform they think they'll be on and also which one you're best at and you most enjoy.

Speaker 1: 21:41

So, yeah, So one was research. Two is creating something that actually answers the questions that they're asking. right, that's what you're researching. What are they asking? What does they need help with? And then three was, now that you have that, you have somewhere to be like, this is where you can grab it. Now you show up as an expert inside those groups, giving them free value, and then they're going to be like oh my God, this is great, how can I learn more from you? And then they click on your picture, they download your stuff, they go to your group, they get into your marketing ecosystem. Three easy steps, right? Well, they did. Yes, so easy.

Speaker 1: 22:25

Yes, love it, love it, love it. Oh, my God, you figured it out. So young you're going to be, so, so rich, Oh my God.

Speaker 1: 22:33

You have a compound interest, right, you have. Like you're, you know. Like you, you made the initial investment and then, because of compound interest, like you're going to be super rich because you figured it out so early And so it's just going to keep, you know, it's just going to keep growing. So that is awesome. But anyone can do that right. Like we have something that we are an expert in, even if it's not business. You don't have to be a business coach for kids. You don't have to do that. You just have to find a problem that an audience has. Like, like you said, the audience is already there. You don't have to create an audience. Like you have to go find the people that are already in those little circles, be like oh my God, this is a problem that they're having. This is how they can solve it. Here's how you can give me money and I will bridge from the problem to the solution.

Speaker 2: 23:21

Yeah, and I think the thing is like people are waiting for you, like people need you, like they're really struggling with a certain problem right now and you could be their answer. So, yeah, people are willing to pay for fixing things up. Oh my God.

Speaker 1: 23:37

And like, if you're going to be super rich and I just realized, like if there's like a 12 year old that's working with you, and then they figure this out, imagine how rich they're going to be with Kofi.

Speaker 2: 23:46

Oh wow, this is incredible.

Speaker 1: 23:49

That's just absolutely amazing, phoebe. All right, so this has been absolutely wonderful. We're going to go ahead and sign off. I'm so glad we did that little last thing, though, because, just I mean, it's three easy steps. It's just so simple. I love it how you just simplified it like that, and we're watching it happen. This is not theory that you're talking about. This is what's making you money, right, like, apart from being a nanny, this is making you money. I'm willing to bet a lot of money on that, yeah, because you're doing it right. So I absolutely love it. Phoebe, thank you so much for being here with me. I don't know if you're in my group yet, but definitely come hang out with us in there, because you could definitely be a guest expert in there with us. Would love to hear from you, and I'm definitely going to be hanging out in your group, cool, so until next time. Thank you so much. We will see you guys inside our Facebook groups. Thanks everyone, bye, bye, bye.