Bend The Spoon, Bend Your Life with Miche Mizner

We sit with Miche, a healer and mentor, to explore how spoon-bending becomes a doorway to self-love, presence, and practical change. A personal story of pressure and depression turns into a grounded method for shifting inner talk, inviting gratitude, and widening possibility.

• early calling, depression, and the turn toward self-acceptance
• why spoon bending is a real-time mirror for mindset
• respecting the spoon and noticing inner language
• gratitude as allowing rather than forcing
• bending life: attention, intention, and everyday shifts
• free visualization to open new possibilities
• where to connect with Miche and join workshops
• final insight: self-love as the greatest superpower

“Find Me at mecheshines.com and on social as ‘Meche Shines.’ Join my Facebook group, Pillars of Light Alliance. Grab the free guided visualization to explore what else is possible.”

Transcript

The Mission, Depression, And Self-Love

SPEAKER_01 0:13

Hello there and welcome back to the next episode of Overcome Yourself the Podcast. As you know, my name is Nicole, and I'm very excited to be here today with one of my amazing clients, and that is Mitche. And I know Michael from actually Brenda's group. So I've interviewed Brenda. You can go check out her episodes. And so we've had the pleasure and the opportunity of getting to share some stories and get to play and do some acting together inside that group. But today, Michael's going to be talking to us about something very cool that she does. And that is spoon bending. And you can check that out on her website. I made the graphic for that. So go check that out. But for right now, what I want you to do, Michael, is please go ahead and introduce yourself and tell us a little bit about who you are and who you help.

unknown 1:04

Yeah.

Why Spoon Bending Matters

SPEAKER_00 1:05

Okay. Thank you, Nicole. I'm happy to be here. Uh so yeah, my name is uh Michael, Michael Meisner. I'm uh healer, energy worker, spiritual mentor, life coach. Uh, and I started all of that because I needed all of that, uh, starting out. So, you know, like you're your own best client. They say, you know, if you're a doctor, you shouldn't work on yourself. But I think for coaches, uh, you know, particularly we're usually our own, our own client or our clients are sort of a version of us, uh, you know, sort of coming coming along behind, right? So a lot of my work is to help people get through the kind of stuff that I got through uh in shorter order with less struggle and with some support. So uh for me, uh I was only five years old when I got the message that I was supposed to save the world. And I don't know where that came from, I don't know how I got that, but I took it really seriously and it didn't come with instructions, so I felt really lost. And I contribute uh a lot of my years of depression and sense of uh failure and not being able to, you know, sort of perform what I was here to do uh with you know that message that I got. And so struggled a lot with uh with depression and felt like no matter what I did, it wasn't enough, no matter you know who I helped. I was busy helping other people really before I could help myself and finally realized that you know needed to really start at home and so consequently have gone through a lot of work, uh coaching and therapy and groups and self-help and meditation and so many things to really try to help myself deal with my own uh lack of self-love and self-worth issues. I felt like if I couldn't uh do this mission, whatever enormous mission that was, that I didn't even deserve to be here. So I've had to kind of work through that and finally come to understand that I'm here just the way I'm supposed to be. That uh actually, you know, I did initially I thought the message was like, you go figure out what you need to do and go save the world. And you know, through different gyrations and growth and whatever, I think now it's the if there was a message, it was probably more like, hey, the world kind of needs help. And I think putting you here now and having you just be you is going to help. So go go out there, do your thing. So my thing now is to be myself and you know, just express and be and love and enjoy and to help other people do the same thing for themselves, not in my way, but in their way. So uh I like to say also I'm like a self-love and superpower coach, uh, helping people to really appreciate who they are in all the ways that our cultures, you know, and our society might want us to sort of lock those things off so that we fit into some slot or some box. Uh, but that that's the magic that we came in with that the very things that we're trying maybe to get rid of or squash or change or be like somebody else, you know, being ourselves is is it? It's the job. Be yourself, uh, and just share that uh joyfully, I think, and be love. So so that's who I am, that's what I do, and one of the ways I do that is quirky enough by teaching people how to bend spoons, using still using her hands. I don't teach you how to like look at it and make it fall over, sort of like the you know, uh men whispering to goats thing. Um but to uh to pay attention to what's going on inside yourself and to find a place of flow and and acceptance and self-love and connection with who and what is around you, and to be able to then use your hands and your mind to bend something, stainless steel spoon, uh often just bend it in half with ease that you couldn't at the start of the workshop bend at all. And I use that as well, it's more than a metaphor, it's a very real, tangible experience of how powerful we are when we can on one hand get out of our way, and on the other hand, get in into our flow and what we're capable of and how important what we say to ourselves, what we believe, uh the self-talk that we're running, how much that affects our own internal experience and self and also the world that we're living in, very you know, close up, like a spoon in your hand, or you know, bigger, bigger world. So that's that's in a very large nutshell. That's what I'm about.

Origin Story: From Radios To Spoons

SPEAKER_01 6:02

That's amazing, that's beautiful. Um, talk to me about the spoon bending, because that's very interesting. Can you tell us how you stumbled into that? Like, how did you discover spoon bending? Like that's I mean, I remember seeing it in The Matrix, but I didn't know that people did that. So can you tell us about that?

Teaching The Skill And The Science Of Belief

Gratitude, Allowing, And Flow

SPEAKER_00 6:21

Yeah, and I don't think I saw The Matrix until quite a few years after I bent my first spoon, so I didn't even have that sort of reference of, you know, there is no spoon. Uh, but yeah, well, even from early childhood, I was interested in all sorts of like paranormal and ESP things and whatever. So I used to go to the used bookstore and comb through their shelves or their shelf, you know, something back then it was like a shelf and look for podcasts later on. And uh I uh worked self-employed as a jeweler, still do that. It's a lot of I have my hand in a lot of different things. I've been a jeweler for 50 years, but somewhere in the midst of that, I would like to listen to well, dating myself, I would listen to cassettes, right? Like Deepak Chopra and uh Wayne Dyer, and I would listen to you know personal development and whatever. And there was this one podcast that I found called News for the Soul uh by Nicole Whitney, who I actually wound up having my own show on her radio station for a while years later. That was a great sort of serendipitous synchronicity story of its own. But she was selling a spoon bending kit, and I was bending metal, you know, with hammers and you know, tools and stuff, and so the idea of being able to bend it with my mind seemed like a great thing. And I used to listen to these people that she would interview having all these amazing experiences of you know, astral travel and uh beings coming to take you on a tour of the cosmos and um uh law of attraction things, all these things happening, which you know I believed in. I I believed what I was hearing, but I wasn't really seeing and feeling it myself. And so anyway, I bought her her kit, which basically was a set of instructions. You had to provide your own spoon, and a spoon. And so to me, that became like the touch point of these stories, these things that I was hearing about, but not having firsthand experience. Now I had, you know, first literally first hand experience of being able to like make a shift like that. And um, that was in like I don't know, 2006 or something. And at the time, and I tried to share it with friends, family, whatever, nobody else was able to do what I did, and so that was weird, and I just put it aside. But 10 years later or so, I was teaching psychic skill building in a meetup class, and I hadn't bent spoons like all that time, and I you know, just dropped in divine inspiration, like, go get some spoons. So I went to the local thrift store, got some spoons, brought it to my class, and most everybody uh was able to bend their spoons, including myself. And the light bulbs went off of oh my god, what did I just do? You know, and I understood in that moment how it was a bridge, not just for me to see what was possible, but to be able to share that with other people. And so uh it's been about 10 years now that I've been teaching this, uh, mostly online, but sometimes in person. I've taught hundreds of people how to find that sort of sweet spot within themselves to make something else happen that they would have thought, well, that they proved for themselves in a moment before that it apparently couldn't happen, and then make it happen. And I use that as a vehicle to uh bring in all these other ideas for people who maybe uh never even heard about law of attraction or you know, what you uh think about how it grows and you know how our intention and attention affects things and how everything is energy and all these different things. It's just I can like throw almost any of that into the spoon bending workshop and then have people not everybody, but the majority of people most of the time bend a spoon during the workshop and have this experience for themselves of like wow, you know, being able to harness the some of the more that we are, and then talk about how to apply that in everyday life. Because spoon bending in and of itself is pretty cool and fun, but my purpose for it is then how do you how do you shift life? How do you bend life? How do you pay enough attention to your own internal uh state of mind and state of being that you can shift that and harness it to live your best life and to create magic as you go?

SPEAKER_01 10:49

That's amazing, and I think there's something to be said about the fact that not everyone necessarily can do it. Um, you know, like it's not a given, right? Like this is something that you're gonna have to actually work on and you're gonna have to have some faith in it um to make it work, right? And then if it doesn't happen, that's okay. Maybe you aren't ready right now. Maybe you can try again. Um, but there's, you know, I think that that's kind of cool that it's not just a given that you're just gonna do it. Like in the beginning, you try it, does it work? And then you you you do something. I don't know, the magic happens, you make the magic happen. Um, and then you can bend the spoon. Um, so something that I ask a lot of guests, my foundational thing is gratitude. Does gratitude play any part of this spoon bending slash life bending process? Can you talk to us a little bit about that?

It’s Not About The Spoon

SPEAKER_00 11:40

Right, of course, yeah, it does. And, you know, um, and uh, you know, maybe you will and maybe you won't. You know, there's I always tell people like, you know, if you do, it's great. And if you don't, you're still an amazing being. And you know, I figure I feel like we're we're divine beings having a human experience. And so in there, there's gratitude for everything that we're experiencing, there's gratitude for the ability to just show up and notice and be aware of what's happening in our lives. Um, and uh yeah, I'm I mean, I think I I frame it more around self-love and appreciation, but it's you know, gratitude, gratitude for that. That you can't really bend a spoon if you're in resistance or if you're in pushing against, if you're not uh you know, if you're trying to force something to happen, right? And to me, gratitude is an acceptance of whatever is. It doesn't mean you necessarily want to stay with whatever is, but you're uh uh you're I'm not even surrendering, but you're you're accepting, you're being present and you're um uh you know uh grateful to be here having this life and having this experience and whatever it is, and then to know that you can shift it again also with gratitude. And so uh there was a guy, Jack Hauk, uh years ago in like 60s or 70s, who used to run these uh typokinesis parties where he would teach people how to bend spoons and whatever. And his part of his way it wasn't there, but I've seen some you know video clips, and he would have people shout at them at the forks and the spoons were ben. And you know, to me, part of it was like, No, I appreciate the spoon. I'm gonna ask you, I'm gonna ask you for permission. I'm gonna say, hey, you know, what if we do a different dance and and have a different experience together? So in that sense, you know, there's gratitude even for that. I have people start off with their spoons, come with several spoons, and ask the spoons, do you want to bend? And so there's gratitude for relationship in there, you know, of energy and um always just so much appreciation for what people are bringing in the workshop too. Anytime that people share what's going on, what happened? You just bent it, what happened, what was happening in your mind? You can't bend it, what's going on? You know, uh, because we get in our own way. And so um one of the things about the workshop and why I do them live, uh, you know, and rarely share the recordings unless you've been on the call is because I want to help people find their way. You just don't always find it either, but it it has to do with you know, being at peace in yourself and being willing to uh release the outcome. And to me, all of that is wrapped up in what gratitude and having gratitude is about in your life. So yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:40

That is I I love it. I love everything you talked about. It's so profound, and even having gratitude when it doesn't necessarily work like we thought it was, like we thought it would. Um, kind of like a hero's journey, right? So even if we don't get the prize, we can still appreciate the journey and we can still appreciate the transformation that took place. So I think that's cool.

SPEAKER_00 15:02

Yeah, and actually, I mean that's the spoon-bending workshops are very much about that. That's it's yeah, the end result, you want to bend a spoon, and the learning and uh self-awareness that happens as you're trying to bend the spoon or or applying yourself to bend the spoon. To me, that's where really the goal is to see what comes up. You know, when you're facing a challenge, what are you saying to yourself? What you know, what's what's the inner monologue or what's you know, what is getting away, how can we notice that? Because if you don't notice it, you can't do anything about it. Notice it and then work with it. You know, sometimes it's just sort of slip it out of the way and be like, yeah, you know, inner critic, not so much right now. You just sit over here, we're gonna do this. And sometimes it's noticing, wow, every time I come up with a you know a challenge, if I can't do it right away, I immediately tell myself, you know, it I I I suck. Or I tell myself, well, I just can't do it, you know. And what if you just change the language and change the approach? And so um it's like the the struggle, or I won't use the word, you know, failure, but the attempt to try something and not get the result that you're looking for, that's where we learn and grow. If we're kind to ourselves and loving in the process, right? If we're gonna get, you know, mad or nasty with ourselves, and I know I've been there done that, that's not where growth happens, that's where contraction happens.

SPEAKER_01 16:27

So because there is no spoon. This is not about the spoon, right?

SPEAKER_00 16:31

Right.

Free Visualization And Staying Connected

SPEAKER_01 16:31

It's not about the spoon, it's all about what's going on in here, right? Um, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's beautiful. I love that. I love how it comes back full circle, how we talked about earlier. Um, now before we started recording, you mentioned that you had a very special gift for our listeners. Can you tell us a little bit about that?

SPEAKER_00 16:49

Yep, I do. It's uh guided visualization uh that leads people into, and again, you know, the thing about spoons is what else is possible, right? If I can do this, what else is possible? So so this meditation, this visualization, it takes people into uh uh uh internally into a space where we can begin to uh open up to possibilities uh beyond our imagining. Because if we stick with just what we imagine, then it's our own sort of inventory of what we think is possible. But what is possible is so vastly beyond that. So uh part of what it does is open you to like ask what's possible, to come to a state of openness and curiosity and allow the universe to show you what's possible and to bring that into your life. Uh it's I think it's only 10 or 15 minutes long, uh, so it can be easily done anytime. You can do it over and over, it's not just a one-off thing. You can try to apply it to different things, you know. If you feel stuck on something, you can bring that to it. Um and it can, you know, open new doors and bring new possibilities and and shift your life. So it's and fun. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:06

And then how can we stay in touch with you? Like on social media?

SPEAKER_00 18:10

Right. Uh, you can find me pretty much whatever social media it is. My handle is Meachay Shines. So whether that's Instagram or uh LinkedIn or um TikTok, even I think I'm there. But anyway, all of them.

SPEAKER_01 18:26

Doesn't matter where you are. Find Meche Shines.

SPEAKER_00 18:29

Find Mechai Shines, and uh, you know, my website, as you will know, because you built it for me, is Micheyshines.com. So you can find me there, you can find out the different uh work I do, uh programs that I offer. Uh and uh I think yeah, even we've got links to my jewelry making there as well. Been, like I say, custom jeweler for over 50 years. And some of what I do, actually, somebody was recommending recently that I make I started making spoon rings and bracelets and stuff, but not with the ones that I bend. But if you come to a workshop and you bend a spoon or something, and unless you want to just put it on your mantle or your pressure, you know, you could send it to me and I could make you a spoon ring or a necklace or something.

SPEAKER_01 19:13

So oh, that's so cool. I love that.

SPEAKER_00 19:15

Yeah, you can find it all at mechashines.com or uh connect with me on Facebook. Also, have a Facebook group I would love to invite you to, Pillars of Light Alliance. And then just uh look that up and find me there. So thank you.

Final Tip: Self-Love As Superpower

SPEAKER_01 19:30

Awesome. And all of those links are going to be available down in the show notes, so make sure to check down there. Awesome. Um, all right, now final tip like what is one of those big tips that you have, like as we're um looking to bend the spoon, right? We're learning about bending the spoon. What's like that biggest aha moment that your clients get? What do you tell them?

SPEAKER_00 19:53

That you know, it's the the way into that is different for each person. And so to be present and aware with yourself and allowing, right? And to try not to, you know, we think, okay, I'm gonna bend and it's gonna go this way. And then suddenly you might feel some urge to do something else to turn it a different way. Follow that, go with that. And that in general in life, um, the big tip is as far as I can tell, self-love is the greatest superpower that you could ever have, and that will be well applied anywhere in your life.

SPEAKER_01 20:28

I love that. That is amazing. Self-love is your superpower. That's that's a big deal, especially in our world, right? Um, yeah, and it's kind of like putting your own gas mask on first before you help someone else. Like you gotta love on you first. Yeah, um, that's beautiful. I love that. Thank you so much, Michael. This has been just such an amazing episode. Um, thank you for joining us.

SPEAKER_00 20:52

Yeah, thanks for having me. It's been great.

SPEAKER_01 20:55

Thank you. And we'll catch you guys next time on the next episode of Overcome Yourself the Podcast. Bye.

unknown 21:01

Bye.