Collect The Cash, Keep The Clients with Dee Bowden

Ever deliver great work and then hear nothing but crickets when it’s time to get paid? We brought in Dee Bowden, creator of Collect the Cash, to show a better way—one that turns awkward follow-ups into respectful conversations and overdue invoices into closed payments. Dee has spent decades in accounts receivable, and her approach is simple: solve the problem, serve the client, say thank you, and build the relationship so business keeps coming back.

We walk through the four-key framework step by step, starting with the question that unlocks stalemates: “What happened?” Inside every story are the facts you need to fix issues fast—missing POs, misnamed bill-tos, invoice errors, or mismatched terms. Dee shares language you can use today, plus a timing strategy for outreach that respects people and improves response rates. We also unpack confidence versus competence, especially for founders transitioning from a paycheck mindset to asking for five-figure payments. Confidence grows with process, and process starts with clarity.

To make systems stick, Dee maps collections to a familiar journey: buying a cell phone. There’s a sale, a contract, order entry, order fulfillment, accounts payable, and accounts receivable—each step tracked, confirmed, and closed. You can mirror that flow in your business with clean contracts, clear payment terms, automated reminders, and consistent follow-through. Gratitude isn’t window dressing either—saying thanks after a resolved issue signals respect and keeps doors open for renewals and referrals.

Ready to replace stress with a system? Grab Dee’s free “Five Tips to Collect the Cash” at www.collectthecash.biz/freebie, connect with her on LinkedIn and IG (@dcollectcash), and tell us the one line you’ll try on your next follow-up. If this helped, subscribe, share with a friend who needs a cash-flow boost, and leave a quick review to help others find the show.

Transcript

Welcome And Guest Intro

SPEAKER_01 0:01

Hello there and welcome back to the next episode of Overcome Yourself the Podcast. As you know, my name is Nicole, and I'm so excited to be here today with Dee. And this is so exciting. So Dee actually, I believe, watched one of my Podfest presentations, a virtual podfest masterclass that we had earlier this year, 2025. Um, and we got the chance to work together. And so I'm so excited to bring you, Dee. Now, talk to us, Dee. You have a podcast, you've got a great business. So we would love to know a little bit about who you are. So tell us a little bit about who you are and who you help.

SPEAKER_00 0:41

Sure thing. Well, first of all, good afternoon, Nicole, and to your fabulous audience. Let me start with gratitude. I'm I'm I'm grateful for this opportunity to be here, to be on the podcast, to connect with you, my friend, and also talk to your talk

Dee’s Backstory And Values

SPEAKER_00 0:52

to your listeners. Um, you have asked me several things. So, one, yes, I have a podcast. My podcast is called Collect the Cash with D Bowden. Um, so what was your other question? I'm gonna make sure I answer correctly.

SPEAKER_01 1:04

Who you are and who you help. So, yeah, my bad. I'm so sorry. Okay, so you're good. All right, so who I am.

SPEAKER_00 1:09

So here's here's here's here's a fun fact. So I'm D. Bowden, I'm the author and creator of Collect the Cash. I'm originally from Boston. Um, I now live in the great state of Maryland. My fun facts are these I love uh smooth jazz, ferris wheels, and great wines, both red and white. I think I think it's very important that while you run your business, you run your podcast, you do your life, you ought to make sure you put some self-care in there, whatever your self-care is that that recharges you, you should schedule that and make sure you do that and enjoy it.

SPEAKER_01 1:37

I love that. That is awesome. Um, and so tell us a little bit about collect the cash. What is collect the cash and who do you help with that?

SPEAKER_00 1:46

Sure thing. So collect the cash is my is my business. So basically, what I do is I teach small and medium-sized business owners the one thing that most people cringe at, with which is it, which is to collect their outstanding invoices.

The Four Keys To Collecting Cash

SPEAKER_00 1:57

Nicole, you know how it is, and I'm sure your listening listening audience knows how it is. If you if you've done work for a done work or provided a service or provided a product, as best as everything is on contract or purchase order, and you've done the work and you submitted the invoice, and then you get crickets and you're like, I submitted my invoice, I didn't get paid. Ugh, and I don't I don't like to have to go back to my client or customer and say, Hey, your payment didn't come through. Uh, how do we solve this? How do we fix it? So I teach you the four ways to collect the cash, which is problem solving, answering the question of what had happened was. When I say what had happened was, it's kind of a tongue in cheek thing. What it really means is please tell me the story of why you have it paid me so we can get to the resolution. Because my goal is to get you from what had happened was, which is why you're not paid, to you got paid. So basically I say it this way what had happened was to how do we win? And when you win, you get paid. So I teach you this four key frameworks. So the first key is problem solving, is answering the question of what had happened was. Because usually, as we all know, in business and in life, there's always something that happens, and you're like, okay, let me get my bottle of water or tea or coffee, because I know there's a story. You gotta tell me the story. I gotta, I gotta get the story. Once I get the story, the story is inside the story are the facts. So I frame it inside, get the get the story, get the facts. So the first key is problem solving. Second key is customer service. You and I, and everybody who's listening now and in the future knows when you've had great customer service, and you know when you've had like, oh my gosh, this was the worst ever. My objective when you do customer service with your with your clients is to follow up with them, make sure that if something was missed, a mistake was made, you fix it. You I do I ask you to do what's called course correction, which is I can acknowledge you made a mistake, apologize if you need to, get the information to fix it and then fix it. Third key is express gratitude. How I began the conversation. The first thing I said to you was thank you for having me as a guest on your podcast. I believe that whenever people help you solve your problems or work with you to solve your problems, you ought to say thank you. I think I just think it's an old school value, but I just believe that in business and in life, when people take the time to listen to your story, help you solve your issue, figure out, especially in this case where you're trying to get your money, if they help you figure out where your money is, you ought to say thank you. Then the last key, which is how we got here, is relationship building. The reason I get to be a guest today is because I invested in a relationship earlier this year by watching your podcast and watching your masterclass and then doing some work with you. So I have been consistently building a relationship, and that's what's a key that you have to know in business and in life. When you have a contract or when you have a customer, you have to take care of their problems, provide great customer service, do gratitude, and continue the relationship because eventually you want them to refer you more business or or give you more business. And if you don't take care of the relationship in the beginning, you might this that might be a one and done. And most of us don't want to have a one and done. We want to have one and more.

SPEAKER_01 4:37

Yes. Um, well, it's less expensive to sell to a current customer than it is to find a new customer and sell to them. Um, so yeah, it is to our advantage to develop those relationships. Um, because if somebody buys from you and they love you, they love your service, everything you're talking about, they feel taken care of, they feel grateful, they feel like they're like you're grateful for them. Why wouldn't they come back and keep working with you, right? Um, like it's a no-brainer, right?

SPEAKER_00 5:06

Um it makes sense to me. It makes sense to me. And I'm so glad you said that because I think sometimes we forget that everything you do on the

Relationship ROI And Retention

SPEAKER_00 5:18

front end matters on the back end. I'll explain. So, like we talked about having taking taking taking great care of your customer. If they feel valued and all the things, they're gonna go like, you know what, this is a really great experience. I want more of this. And then and then usually, if things go well, they've got a network of other business owners. They want to say, Oh my gosh, working with Nicole, working with D was like so easy. Like they were like prompt, they answered my calls or emails whenever I said I had a concern. You know, if they didn't know, they got back to me within 24 hours, they did their best to resolve it. And I felt like they they cared about me, the business owner, and not just you know the transaction. It's like, you know what? I like that feeling. I'm I want more of that. So I'm I'll take some more scoops of those, please.

SPEAKER_01 6:01

That's such a great way of putting it. I love that.

SPEAKER_00 6:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:04

Um, now can you tell us a little bit about your podcast? Like, if we were to listen, we wanted to listen to your podcast. Like, what what are we gonna hear? What are we gonna learn about?

SPEAKER_00 6:14

Well, collected out. So I'll give I'll give you the I what I'll do is I'll answer that by telling you the backstory. So basically, what what had happened was is uh earlier this year, um, my uh a friend of mine recommended, she said, D, have you ever considered doing a podcast? And I'm like, no. And she was like, You really should consider doing a podcast. And I'm like, I'm not really sure about that. But she she brought up, she brought up a really good point. She said, Dee, you've been a podcast guest for several years now. And she's like, you know, everybody pretty much who knows you knows your thing is collect the cash, they know your story, all the things. And so I was like, Well, um, I'm gonna go ahead and start this. And so what you'll get on collect the cash is is this you're gonna get my origin story, and then you're gonna get the the four keys, and then you're gonna get a case study of how I actually worked with a client to help to help them recover their money. And so the reason the podcast exists is that because there are small sorry there are small and medium-sized business owners that struggle with this one thing, which is recovering,

Inside The Collect The Cash Podcast

SPEAKER_00 7:12

recovering their payments. And so the podcast is my way of sharing uh in site in bite-sized but bite-sized chunks. How do you collect your cash? How do you problem solve? How do you do customer service? How do you do express gratitude? How do you do relationshiping? And I give you a live case study of me working with with a consultant who had a contract with a major university, and I walk her through the four things she needed to do. And the con what the podcast will also do is if you struggle with this or you struggle with asking for money, if you listen to me and listen to the keys, you'll get you'll listen and you'll learn how to do it, do it confidently because I don't make it aggressive, I don't make it hard to do. I basically tell you, teach you how to have a conversation, what are the right questions to ask. These are the four steps you should follow. And then here's basically here's the blueprint. And then I provide a case, a live, a live case study from 2025 that shows this actually works.

SPEAKER_01 8:04

I love that. And I think that it's really important, especially for um, like you mentioned, smaller business owners who are working with big organizations, right? And if you're used to getting a paycheck, it can be very awkward to go up to a company and be like, give me this many thousands of dollars. You might not be used to it. That that might not be part of the experience, right? Like you're used to uh doing things a certain way. And so when it comes to, especially as women, right? Like we were just talking about this early on a podcast where we have the competence, um, but then we don't have the confidence to back that up. Um, and so we have to learn how to do these things. It's totally different. Like it's not just, you know, like you don't just wait till Friday and then your paycheck gets processed. Like we have to be proactive about these things and we have to um, you know, reach out and we have to build these relationships so we can get that money and we can get those big contracts, you know, and then you can, you know, you have your your margins and you can do all the things that you need to do in your business. Um, and I love how you're very proactive about it, right? Because this isn't about waiting until you have lots and lots of outstanding invoices, and then you're like, I need to go to the grocery store, and I can't. Um that's not true.

SPEAKER_00 9:21

I can't go to the grocery store, or I can't pay my bills, or I've got vendors that I have contracts with that I need to pay, or I was planning on you know investing uh in some marketing, you know, in the next quarter, or whatever, whatever, whatever. And I want to go back to something you said, which is we have competence, which is basically our knowledge, skills, and abilities in whatever it is the thing that

Confidence Versus Competence In Collections

SPEAKER_00 9:43

we do. All of us have it. We all we we all have we all have a certain certain level of knowledge, certain level of skills, certain level of abilities, and we all do that in a variety of things. That's why we are we have all the different industries and we've got people working across all of them. But confidence is a different thing, you know, especially because some of us, you know, if if you've been told you don't say it like this, or you can't do this, or dot, dot, dot, dot, dot. Um, one of the reasons why I created collector cash is I want I wanted to dispel the collections myth, which is when people usually hear the word collections, they think of consumer collections, which tends to be the people that have a list of accounts and they're on the phone and they're they're dialing for dollars and they're super aggressive and they're all the things. That's not what I do. I'm in accounts receivable. So if you've ever worked in corporate or if you've ever worked in private sector or in the public sector, which is the government, I'm talking about you having a contract, you're working in the finance department where you've got a list of accounts and a bunch of calls that you have to make. And there's a certain way that you do it so that you don't damage the relationships because even though you may have gotten the contact, the contract, all the things, at the end of the day, you're doing business with another person. And how you how you do that is how you do it on the front end is is is is consistent all the way through. The second thing is confidence. Confidence don't the reason I can sit here today uh in 2025 confidently doing this is because I've got over 20 years of experience doing this. But my my first experience 20 20 over 20 years ago, it it came with, okay, well, this is the way we do it. And I'm like, okay, I didn't quite get it, so I made some mistakes. And then here's the thing part of life and in business, you have to one, you have to be able, you have to be teachable and coachable. Number one, number two. Number three, you have to be able to course correct. What I mean by that is acknowledge that you made a mistake. When I in my early in my earlier years, I made a bunch of mistakes trying to recover money for companies and all the things. Because I was like, listen, we need to get paid, let's go. Then they were like, uh, wait, nope, uh, appreciate your energy, but uh nope, yeah, not that quite you, we gotta do a little differently. So as I've grown and as I've matured, I've I've found a more relaxed way to do it because what I what I discovered, and the reason I have the four keys is I discovered I went back and I really thought about how did you figure out how to do this? And I realized what I do is problem solving. I've been I've been a problem solver and a contract administrator for over 25 years. I've always had to solve somebody's problem around their payments, and then whatever data entry error, system error, all the things. And then I guess basically basically what you call it, I reverse engineered. Okay, looked at it, okay. Problem solving is what you do, that's what you've done. How did you do it? You've had to build relationships with all the people in all the different apartments. How'd you figure that out? Because one, the issue wasn't getting resolved. I had to go talk to the person, and then I found out some people, some people like to be like to have conversations early in the morning, some people prefer conversations in the afternoon. So you learn to be you know flexible and find out the way to do it. So I figured out I did problem solving. I learned customer service because all of us, whoever, where wherever you've worked in corporate or in or in or not or nonprofit, we have internal customers and external customers. Your internal customers are your peers or your boss or your boss's boss, and you gotta really build the relationships with them, and then of course you have your external customers, and those people you gotta, you know, especially if they're giving you money, you definitely have to make sure you build a good rapport with them. So the problem solving was the first thing, the customer service thing, and then expressing gratitude. It's really simple, Nicole. I remember seeing this, I'll never forget. This is how it really got started. I never forget seeing an invoice come in from a client. This is from a company

The Cell Phone Tracking System Analogy

SPEAKER_00 13:01

I worked for years ago, and it said this, thank you for your business. And I just thought that was the oddest thing. When I was younger, I'm like, who says thank you for your business? Then it dawned on me. I'm like, oh, the reason they're saying thank you for your business is because they realized that this company had a choice on who they could do business with, and they decided to put on the bottom of their invoice, thank you for your business. I didn't really get that until years later. And then as I wrote my book, I was like, that's why you do gratitude, because you saw it on the bottom of an invoice. And then I also learned that because I said thank you to the people who took my phone call, helped me uncover the issues, all the things. And then I had people tell me, especially in finance, say D, no one ever comes back and says, Thank you for when we help them get their payments. And I said, Ah, that's gonna be a key principle for me. So, my problem solving, my customer service, my gratitude, and then building relationships, which we've been talking about all this time. Every time I've had to work with somebody, that's that's building the relationship, us finding the rapport, finding the thing that makes us click. Why do we do what we do? Who are you, where you're from, what's your favorite, whatever, dot, dot, dot. And I realized that when people are heard and seen, they're like, Oh, you didn't just just barge in and ask me a bunch of questions. You actually talked to me. You're like, Yeah, because you're a human, like me. Help me solve my problem and I'll help you solve yours. And we go like that. Now, again, I don't want this to come across like I just woke up and figured this out. Trust me, this has been a 20-year journey. But what I get to do today is share about it and share now the fruits of you know taking taking lessons and taking classes and reading books and being on podcasts and learning how to do this better. That's for all of us, whether you have a podcast or not. These four keys are the four things you have to do in life and in business.

SPEAKER_01 14:36

Yeah, and when you boil it down, what you do is facilitate communication. Like that that's that's at the heart of it, you know. And I think that's so important. Like, there's so many movies that wouldn't be movies if people had just communicated in the beginning, you know, if they had to ask some questions instead of making assumptions, if they're doing exactly what you're saying, right? Um, because sometimes we do bring our own ideas, we bring our own assumptions, we bring our own stuff into the conversation and just opening up. And I mean, that's gonna work for you in any area of life, like your relationships with your kids, with your boss, with anybody. It's just, you know, like let's ask some questions, let's let's be human about this and you know, find out what is actually going on. Um, don't make assumptions, and you know, we can make we can make magic happen. I love that. And you you mentioned that you wrote a book. Can you tell us a little bit about that before we sign off here?

SPEAKER_00 15:36

Sure thing. So collect the cash. So that okay, so y'all remember COVID? Everybody like, please don't bring it up. I'm like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. No, but seriously. So during COVID, um, my book coach had done a webinar and she said, Um, you can write a book in 90 days or less. And I thought she was kidding. She's like, No, no, you can really write a book in 90 days or less. And so I went to the webinar, I listened to the webinar, and I was like, I told my my six million dollar story about how I collected this much money, and she says, You have a system, you can teach small business owners how to win. And so we played double dutch. If y'all know anything about jumping rope, we played double dutch and she won. That's that's why I collect the cash as a book today, is because she heard the story. Because as a practitioner, I just thought, you know, I collect money, I recover money. I didn't, I didn't see it as a book, I didn't see it as a story, I didn't see the framework, I didn't see any of that. She pulled that out of me because she listened to my story and she says, Oh, D, well, I'm a small business owner. And she said, I don't have a tracking system. And she's like, Teach me your tracking system. And I said, Oh, she's like, Well, how do you do that? And so I gave her the story, and I basically gave her the story by how you buy your how you buy your cell phone because you how do you buy your cell phone is an actual tracking system. Can I tell the story? Sure, go for it. All right, so all y'all that are listening, all y'all that listening, y'all, all of y'all have a cell phone, whether your team iPhone or Android, it doesn't matter. So, a tracking system basically, how you bought your how you bought your cell phone is to a tracking system. So, basically, you walk into said phone store. Hey Nicole, what brings you in today to whatever company? You're like, Well, the reason I came in today

Closing The Loop On Business Systems

SPEAKER_00 17:04

is this button on my phone is not working, and I'm like, you know, I keep trying to get this thing, it's not doing it, or the app isn't uploading, or whatever the issue. And you're like, oh, well, before we get any get further, go any further, can I get your driver's license, please? I want to confirm you're a customer of said phone company. Okay, they confirm you and they're like, oh, they confirm your name, your mailing address, your mother's maiden name, your account number, dah dah dah da. And you're like, okay, I gotta go through all this for y'all to fix my button. Yep. And then you go, Nicole, did you know you were eligible for an upgrade? And you're like, I didn't come in here to buy a new phone. I just want you to fix my phone. I got things to do today. The reason I'm telling you the story is this the first thing they did was they they they put they put the seed of a sale in your eye out to you. So you so the cell, so your cell phone, so you fix that. So the first thing is so there's a sale, then there's a contract. You're like, well, while we're working on your phone, why don't you walk around the store and see if you want the new iPhone, Android? You're like, the new whatever comes out, you're like, ooh, my phone is four years old. I think I might, I might, I think I might want to take this upgrade. How much of a credit do I get between the old phone and new phone? So they tell you, so they have a sale, there's a contract, order entry. They'll start to put the information back. I'm sorry, order fulfillment. But go on the back and confirm they've got 10 phones, they bring you out one, you're like, Are you sure you want this one? They're like, Yep. They scan the barcode, all the new information goes on your phone. So the sale, contract, order entry, order fulfillment. Then they'll say, Nicole, when would you like so now that you've got this new phone, when do you want the bill, which is accounts payable? The phone company bills you every single month. And you've got basically when you get your phone, your phone bill, it's got your information, your terms and condition, your contract, and whether you bought the phone outright or you're paying it, you know, monthly payments. That's what happens. You say, Oh, I pay my bills on X date. You know, like, okay, we're gonna schedule your payment to be due on this day. Then accountsable, people like me who collect this somebody works for every phone company that's collecting the cash every time, every day, every week, every month. So then you got a sale, contract, order entry, order fulfillment, accounts payable. You tell them when you're gonna when you want the bill, accountsable, we're gonna collect the money from you, and then you're gonna sign this contract, and then you're gonna do this. Before you finish everything, you're gonna walk over to the register, and the lovely person's gonna say, Hey Nicole, how do you want to pay for your phone? Debit, credit, cash. And then these two magical words appear transaction approved. Now, the way you bought your cell phone, if you listen to me, you there was a sale, there was a contract, this order entry, this order fulfillment, accounts payable. The phone company bills you accounts see what someone like me collects the cash and you have a new contract, and then you go on your very way. And they gather all your beautiful things and they they think take take your old phone, transfer all your data to your new phone, they put you in a bag and they go, Thank you so much for being a customer of X phone store. But how you bought the cell phone is a tracking system, and they know your name, your phone, when your payments are due. And then now, because they do text and bots, they can text you and say, Oh, you know what, your payments are overdue by a day. And then they they'll just keep sending you the reminders until you schedule this payment because you miss it. But the point is that the tracking system, I shall I share the cell phone story because everyone has one, number one, number two. It's a it's a great way, whether in business or in life. If you every Everything that gets measured gets tracked. Cell phones, everything it gets that, yeah, it's that. Everything gets tracked. And so I share that as a way to do that. So the cell phone story is the way to people understand tracking your payments, tracking your customers, tracking your clients, tracking your money is the easiest way. When you think about your cell phone, you're like, Yeah, that's exactly how I got my phone. And usually when we go to get an upgrade, is because somebody said, Did you know your eligible phone? You're like, I didn't come in here to buy a phone, but because they make it look so good, you're like, ooh. And then they give you a deal, and then all the things. And so that's that's the cell phone story.

SPEAKER_01 20:31

Cool. Thank you. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Um, and you you demonstrate like each part of the sales process. Um, because it can be very confusing, especially if you're not from this world, right? Like even differentiating marketing from sales, and then differentiating, well, what part is like client intake versus client fulfillment? What about like, you know, like all of these other systems that we need to have in place, right? Like when we sign someone on, having some emails that get sent out that let them know like your hours that you're available, how they can make the payment, what days are the payment, like what options they have, you know, like what are the limits? But we have a bunch of those systems in the front end, but then you know what happens in the back end. So I love how you come in and you kind of bring this whole circle. Um, you know, because that's that's what that's what makes it real, right? Like at the end of the day. Um, because if you have a bunch, you know, you made a hundred thousand dollars, but it's all outstanding, you're not in good standing. Like that's not gonna be good for you. It's not gonna be good for your clients, like it's not good for you to be scrambling trying to figure things out. Like you're not gonna be able to serve your client, you're not gonna be able to help your family, you're gonna be outside of yourself, like you're just gonna not feel well. And so, um, yeah, so I think it's really important that not just, you know, focusing on this on the back end, but like you're talking about is just taking a very intentional look at you know your systems and making sure that you have something to support you and you have lots of resources available for the audience to help them do that, like with your book, your podcast, all of your resources.

SPEAKER_00 22:15

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 22:15

And you mentioned um a gift. You had a gift for the listeners you want to tell us about that?

SPEAKER_00 22:21

I sure can. Well, first of all, you know, good home training says you never go to anybody's house without bringing a gift. You suppose we actually bring a gift. So, my gift to your audience is this it's called five tips to collect the cash. And what the five tips do is they give you

Free Resource And How To Connect

SPEAKER_00 22:33

I shared with you all earlier the four keys. So the five tips basically accentuate each one of the keys, and you'll you'll you'll see that. So you can please go to www.collect thecash dot biz forward slash freebie. That's www.collect thecash dot viz forward slash freebie. And you click on that and download, put your name and your email address, and then you'll get an automatic um you get an automatic download, and you'll see the five keys. And if after you receive the keys, you're like, D, I got questions. Well, there's a uh you can go right back to the same, same, same link, and there's a button that says schedule a call, schedule a call with me, and we can talk about it, especially if you're struggling with collecting outstanding invoices for your clients, and you go, D, I got the heebie jeebs. Well, I don't want you to have the heebie jeebies, I want you to get on the call with me and let's talk about it. Let's let's let's let's let's reduce your heebie jeebies, let's get you get you calm. I'll teach you the four ways to get your money, and then then you'll be on your way.

SPEAKER_01 23:23

I love that. That is fantastic. And um, as we're signing off here, can you tell us like what's that one biggest tip that you give your clients that gives them just the biggest aha moment, the biggest breakthrough?

SPEAKER_00 23:36

The biggest tip I give them is is problem solving. I but I believe that everything that everything that you are trying to collect, do, whatever, it starts with solving the problem. Think about it this way when we all started our businesses, what did we do? We said we were creating this business because we want to do what? Solve a problem. That's what we did. And so what and what however you do, however, you do what you do, your you believe that your your service,

Final Tip And Sign Off

SPEAKER_00 24:00

your product can answer, answer a problem in the out in the world. And so we do that. So I the biggest tip I give you is that you solve the problem. You you go from the what had happened was to how do we win, and when you win, you get paid. But you you can't get paid until you ask the question of what happened, and number two, get the story, and number three, get the facts, and number four, fix whatever is broken or disconnected so you can actually get paid.

SPEAKER_01 24:23

Amazing. Thank you so much, D. This has been phenomenal. Um, did you mention your social medias of how we can stay in touch with you?

SPEAKER_00 24:32

I'm about to. So the best way to follow me is on LinkedIn, number one, and on I'm sorry, LinkedIn, number one, number two, IG. On IG, I'm I'm at D Collect Cash. And then on LinkedIn is just my name, Dvoaded.

SPEAKER_01 24:45

Awesome. And all of those links, including the freebie link and everything that Z mentioned, is going to be available for you guys down below in the show notes. Um, so thank you so much for joining us. This has been absolutely amazing, and we will catch you guys next time on the next episode of Overcome Yourself the Podcast. Bye.